As part of the opening of the exhibition "Swimming in Atmosphere - Water Worlds II" by 4a Architekten on 15 December 2023 in Berlin, Ernst Ulrich Tillmanns talks to Deutschlandfunk Kultur moderator Till Hasse about how to design atmospheric swimming pools.

Click here for the interview: Deutschlandfunk Kultur - Architektur von Schwimmbädern - "Weg von der Schlachthofatmosphäre"